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Thank you listeners Season One was a great success!
Season Two keeps investigating genuine mental health and embodied innate well-being by:

health sciences research and practice with profound wisdom traditions

with pioneering clinicians, researchers, academics, and contemplatives

us about integrative psychotherapies and Buddhist psychology

content with a heavy dose of intelligence, clarity, and openheartedness


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Lisa Dale Miller, LMFT, LPCC, SEP
Clinician, Author, Dharma Teacher

Lisa specializes in Integrative Psychotherapy and Somatic Experiencing Therapy. She is the author of a highly regarded textbook on Buddhist psychology for mental health clinicians, Effortless Mindfulness: Genuine mental health through awakened presence and a recent chapter in The Handbook of Mindfulness: Society, Culture and Context. Lisa is a dharma teacher and has been a yogic and Buddhist meditation practitioner for over four decades. Visit my website for detailed information!

Feb 26, 2018

Welcome back to the Groundless Ground Podcast! This first in a series of dialogues on the clinical use of embodied contemplative interventions features Peter Payne, researcher at Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth College, and the co-founder of Bodymind Science and creator of Bodymind Training. Long-time master qigong teacher and Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, Peter has been a key contributor to theoretical modeling of the interoceptive, kinesthetic and proprioceptive mechanisms of Somatic Experiencing Therapy.

Peter shares his exciting clinical research into the use of Bodymind Training targeted qigong for easing symptoms of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) and informs us about the history and use of traditional qigong. Then we get a taste of the qigong his research subjects practice by engaging in a simple standing qigong exercise. Lisa and Peter continue their lively discussion with an exploration of neurophenomenology, embodied contemplative nondual interventions and embodied neuroscience.

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